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Old 09-19-2009, 07:25 PM
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This letter assumes that not everybody reading is having trouble meeting women. In fact, if you’ve been paying attention, reading and listening to my materials, you’re at least out there mixing it up, and scoring when you can.

So with that in mind, I’m going to talk about a common pick up situation that a lot of you have either encountered or will encounter sooner or later.

This one is called the obstacle.



If you’ve been doing your research, you know not only what the obstacle is, but who it is. The obstacle is that “other” chick.



Or other chicks. The ones who are friends with your target girl. The one or more chicks who you aren’t interested in and are going to cockblock the hell out of you when you try to separate your target girl from them. Maybe they are hot, maybe they aren't - but you've made up your mind which one you want. And the "other" chick is in your way.


But it doesn’t have to be that way. Let's work through this one, shall we?



To start, keep in mind the mindset of the obstacle girl.



She either rode with or drove her friend to wherever you are.



She’s not only the least attractive of the two, she’s used to guys hitting on her friend.



It’s some sort of girl’s night – or at a minimum they planned their evening ahead of time.



They both want to meet some men.



And here you come.



You ignore Broomhilda and turn your back to her while running your routines and paying all kinds of attention to Christy.



Broomhilda gets pissed, and goes into cockblock mode. There is NO WAY she’s letting you leave with Christy. You dick.



So, what’s a man to do?



Well, for starters – it’s best not to show Christy too much attention and fawn all over her regardless of whether or not she’s there with a friend. You gotta push-pull with her and not seem so eager. Show that you MAY be interested.



But the real magic happens when you pay attention to Broomhilda.



In fact – you need to quickly become best friends with her. Fast.



Because once you do, then she’s your wingman.



And here’s some great ways to do just that.



They’re out having a few drinks, hoping to meet some guys. So far, no takers. So make their night. Go over and liven things up. Let them think they both have a chance, for starters, by not showing your interest too heavily to Christy.



Christy knows she has a shot, cuz she’s the hot one and it happens all the time. Broomhilda will know she has a shot because you aren’t drooling all over Christy.



First off, whenever you approach a 2-set (two women) you want to ask them how they know eachother – specifically, how they met.




Two friends LOVE to tell this story together. So ask them. It’s a great opener, too.



Laugh a little bit, and try to work in a high five – with Broomhilda. If you can get them telling a story about their friendship, you can buddy up with Broomhilda and tell her, “I can see you’re the one in charge of this friendship.”



Ask them if they are best friends.



Talk about how important your friends are to you. Then ask Christy, “So, if you got a dead body in the trunk at three in the morning, you call Broomhilda first, right?”



See – you’re best friends, and she’s in charge. High five Broomhilda.



Use your camera phone – have Christy take a picture of you with your arm around Broomhilda. Then look at it with them. Then, you take a picture of both of them. (They will hate the picture 9 times out of 10 so just take another one until they are both happy with it). Tell Broomhilda she photographs well. Let Christy wait for any compliments.



Then, you have Broomhilda take a picture of you and Christy. Get your arm around her waist, and get in close, cheek to cheek. Then, when you look at with them, tell them you hate it and need another one.



Make a very quick trip to the restroom – don’t even use it – just say I’ll be right back, and lean in and tell Broomhilda that she’s awesome. Then pause, and say, and Christy’s really kinda cute but shy. Then go.



Christy wants to know what you whispered in Broomhilda’s ear while you are gone.



Yadda yadda, on and on.



Point is, once you are friends with Broomhilda, then you’ll get her “permission” to hit on Christy, and she’ll even help you. Whenever possible, sit down and sit between them. It let’s you look at Broomhilda and slyly start to touch Christy. On the leg. Her hand, etc. Christy will get your interest, and it will make her hot for you.



If you put her off at first, make friends with both of them, then later warm up to Christy physically, it will turn her on. You need to get physical – even just a hand-hold, to let her know you are interested. If you’ve played her off properly, she’ll be dying for some affirmation as to her hotness.



Then SHE will start to think of ways to get with you without Broomhilda, and you’ll more than likely have Broomhilda’s blessing at this point.



Short verions: Don’t ever ignore the obstacle. She’ll kill your chances.



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----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Liam Judge
Date: Sep 18, 2009 1:27 PM



Hey j.d. I just finished reading your latest article "how to hit on the hot girl with her friend" and it's got some excellent tips for people like myself who've been cock-blocked countless times by a hot chick's friend. But my question is: if i did everything the article, Would the hot chick's friend get the wrong impression of thinking i fancy her because i paid more attention to her from the start? And if she did get that impression, wouldn't she try to get in the way of me and her hot friend out of jealousy? I loved the article, but i'm just a little confused about some of it.


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Date: 18 Sep 2009, 15:30



Not at all. There are a ton of fine points and reasons for everything I said in there that set it up for you. You only have to make her feel like she has a shot then treat her like a friend. She'll get the message and appreciate that you include her rather than ignoring her like all other guys do. That's why you talk about the importance of friends, and you drop in the 'you are awesome and christy is cute' line to let her know who you are attracted to. Believe me - this all works very well. I do it all the time. The main attitude is to be aware that she is there and has feelings - and if you treat her well she will work for you not against you.









Thanks j.d., i understand a lot better now. I'll definitely be using those tips soon.
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Old 09-22-2009, 12:32 PM
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broomhilda can't possibly have any illusions about the target here- ultimately the hot chick not her-- unless she's a complete psychopath (very rare) and lacks all insight.

ugly chicks know they're ugly. that's why they come to me for help
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:59 PM
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Well, Maya - you make a decent point - but you may have missed mine.

first - ugly or not, the obstacle needs to be befriended and included, otherwise: cockblock

Second - broomhilda isn't necessarily ugly, as I state in my post - the scenario is: there is more than one girl, I've made my choice, and the anyone in my way is the obstacle.

One thing I did leave out - if there is a gaggle of them, run your magic and see which ones show interest in you.

All the technique in my original post is pure fucking gold, from the "How do you guys know eachother" to the pictures, etc. That stuff works. Definitely works better than ignoring "other" chick.
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Hey ya, this is bad ass, too smooth lol, I also have my run ins with Broomhilda almost every time i go out, one of the reasons i don't drink to much when i go out anymore is that i would tend to forget to ask certain things.

like for instance the hottie all by herself, "pretty girls don't travel alone", when im sober I play it perfect and ask who shes there with and for her to introduce me before i get interrupted.

but when im drinking i get in a nice buzzed zone and forget that one important question and then here comes broomhilda walking right in between my target and I and pulls her away ever so swiftly.

also if you have an opportunity to bring along a wingman who knows his shit do it, then he can occupy the obstacle weather it be a female or a male and makes you only have to do half the work it would normally take.

then you can get that alone time you need with her.

I personally found a guy who is into larger framed woman, and take him almost everywhere with me, that introduces you to so many more possibilities and has about every corner covered
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:52 PM
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I personally found a guy who is into larger framed woman, and take him almost everywhere with me, that introduces you to so many more possibilities and has about every corner covered

Holy crap! That is a great find indeed!
How many times do you run into that situation...super hottie, not-so-hot friend?!??! Answer - a million.

I should put out a personal ad looking for "Chubby Chaser - needed for Wingman Duties. Will get you laid" hahahha.

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hes not a bad looking guy either, he just likes a few extra pounds on his woman, lol
but including him i have come across two of them here at the beach.

the other one i should have kept around, i seen him dancing with a few hefty woman and i kinda walked him to the side and talked him into pretending weve been buds for a long time,
there was a woman i was interested in and her more to love friend was bringing the mood down because she also wanted to meet a man. He couldn't have came at a better time

That skinny little white boy was just the answer our situation was asking for, and both of us walked out hand to hand with them and got a little more than we came in with
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